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conuly ([personal profile] conuly) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2024-09-14 04:38 pm

I am so not a fan of The Ethicist

My 78-year-old mother has moderate dementia and suffers from mood swings, depression, anxiety, agitation and disturbed sleep. One of her doctors recommended a low-dosage CBD/THC gummy to alleviate these problems. She takes one daily and, combined with other therapies, now experiences more stable moods and better sleep.

The issue is my mother’s conviction that marijuana is for drug addicts and criminals, never mind that medical marijuana is legal in our state. She is so vehemently opposed to marijuana use that she disapproved when my dying sister used marijuana years ago for pain relief from inflammatory breast cancer. I have to lie to her about the ingredients in the gummies, which I casually refer to as ‘‘multivitamins.’’ Is it wrong to give my mother a drug that she would never have voluntarily taken on her own? — Name Withheld


From the Ethicist:

You think your mother’s attitude toward cannabis is irrational. I agree. Generations of government propaganda have doubtless left a mark. But the fact that your mother’s degree of hostility to the stuff is unwarranted doesn’t settle the matter.

Here are a couple of issues to take into account. One is — no surprise — the extent of her dementia, because it affects her ability to understand what you’re telling her about these gummies. From what you say, she would be perfectly capable of understanding that the gummies contain chemicals extracted from cannabis plants, one of which is responsible for psychoactive effects she regards with disapproval. And long before her current condition, you evidently weren’t able to reason with her about the possible medical benefits of THC. In general, we shouldn’t lie to people about the drugs we’re giving them, and your mother would want to know what’s in those gummies. Mild dementia wouldn’t justify denying her that information. But the more serious her dementia is, the more you have to treat her not as someone whose rational capacities must be addressed but as someone whose care is entrusted to you.

Which brings us to a second issue. When we’re acting in the interests of someone who is no longer capable of making reasonable decisions, we may have to bear in mind not just what we think is best for them but what we know they would have thought was best for them. A person who was keeping kosher before she developed dementia shouldn’t be fed bacon, unawares, because her trustee doesn’t believe in Jewish dietary laws. Even if you judge that your mother has passed the point where she can make decisions, you will still have to decide how central her longstanding hostility to cannabis was to her sense of who she was. And you will have to weigh this against the contribution of these gummies to her welfare. Weighing these issues properly involves having a detailed understanding of your mother’s situation; I hope spelling out the issues helps you to do so.

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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2024-09-15 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
You deserve whatever the Ethicist got paid.
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2024-09-15 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
And the final thing about dementia -- it is incurable at the moment, degenerative, and fatal. (Not just that someone without dementia would be able to fight off certain infections better, but eventually the dementia patient stops taking nutrition and water.) So we make different medical decisions about someone with dementia than someone without a fatal and degenerative diagnosis. And it's sometimes hard for someone who is doing daily caregiving to assess where their loved one is on the slow slide into complete incapacity, because you see them every day and maybe you don't realize that they've stopped smiling until someone with fresh perspective comes in and tells you that no, it's severe now.

(My estranged father died of dementia; my mother was his caregiver until the end.)
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[personal profile] laurajv 2024-09-15 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Most of my siblings live in the same town as my mother, so they see her a few times a week. I live 7 hours away, and I drive down about every 3 months and stay with her at her house for a few days.

Part of my job is to keep a food & drink diary of those days and evaluate how Mom is doing vs how she was doing last time I saw her. This is part of how we keep track of slow slides that my siblings can't see. I kind of hate it, but it works. :(
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2024-09-15 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that sounds pretty effectively agonizing!
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2024-09-16 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)

I'm sorry and I hate this for you.