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Lucy ([personal profile] cereta) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2015-08-06 04:19 pm

Dear Carolyn: slightly uneven division of labor

I thought I might break the rhythm with something I suspect we will all more or less agree on ;).


Dear Carolyn: My fiance and I have been engaged since October, and since then, we’ve taken on many challenges: buying and renovating a house, planning a wedding and moving in together. In addition to those challenges, the topic of finances and chores has been a constant argument.

My fiance makes three times as much as I do and currently pays the mortgage and taxes. I pay for food and utilities, and I also have three times as much debt as he does.

He believes that because I make less, all chores (excluding mowing, but including weed-whacking, weeding, etc.) should be my responsibility. I’ve expressed to him that although I make significantly less than he does, I work 40 hours a week, come home and cook, clean on the weekends and am miserable because I haven’t had time to do anything for myself. Keep in mind, he golfs four to six days a week.

Is there a proper way to broach this topic? Every time I do, he brings up our financial inequity, and it’s getting me nowhere but exhausted and upset.

Stressed & Exhausted

You broach this topic with cardboard boxes and the best lawyer you can afford.

And a therapist, to help you figure out why you didn’t walk away from this domestic indentured servitude the moment he proposed it.

Leaving might bankrupt you, but staying will break you. He is building his contentment on your misery, saving the best cuts of life for himself.

Get out, get well, and don’t give yourself to anyone ever again who doesn’t also give himself to you.
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[personal profile] kaberett 2015-08-06 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
yeeeeeeeeeeep
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[personal profile] recessional 2015-08-06 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
A total and complete dick. With gaslighting powers. Like holy crap.
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[personal profile] recessional 2015-08-06 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Good grief, what a DICK.
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[personal profile] torachan 2015-08-06 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, wow, that guy is an asshole. Who makes more money should have zero bearing on how housework is divided. If one person is working more hours than the other, then yes, the person who is working less should ideally take on more of the chores, assuming they are not disabled, because they have more time in which to do them. But how much money one makes per hour has no bearing on how much time one has to devote to chores (and in fact, the person making less may have a more physically demanding job, since high-paying jobs often have very little labor involved).

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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2015-08-07 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I wish I could lend her $20 for her Get Outta Dodge fund, and /or a slignshot with which to return her engagement ring at high velocity.

(Actually, considdering this cheapskate, I think she should keep and hock i.)
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[personal profile] sathari 2015-08-07 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Echoing the other commenters here. DTMFA. Also really glad to see an advice columnist come down on that side, which feels to me like a rarity.

(My Inner Supervillain suggests that "look into divorce laws and community property in your area, and if it turns out that community property and similar would work in your favor? [IIRC, sometimes being the lower-income of the two spouses can work in that spouse's favor in a community-property state, because that spouse is then up for getting half other-spouse's assets. Likewise, all debts may become jointly held, so Asshole Fiance could end up having to pay some portion of LW's debts as well.] Marry his ass, THEN divorce him and get a lawyer--- whom you might even be able to pay with his money--- who will plunder his bank account like Edward Teach and see how he likes not having money for his precious golf games AND having all the housework" is also a plan. As I said, that is my Inner Supervillain talking, and those generally don't give good advice, but the idea of LW suffering worse financial circumstances than they started with because of Asshole Fiance makes me see red.)
Edited (Grammar fail) 2015-08-07 00:48 (UTC)
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[personal profile] sathari 2015-08-07 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, yes you did. My Inner Supervillain's is an evil laugh. (There's also a villain!cat.)
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[personal profile] kaberett 2015-08-07 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
*snort* well played.
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[personal profile] sathari 2015-08-07 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Why, thank you! As I say, Inner Supervillains don't exactly give the best advice (more like "wrong ideas that appeal to you", lol)... but dayum would I like to see LW come out of that relationship in a better financial position than they entered, with the added bonus of Asshole Fiance coming out the monetary loser (especially since he seems to place a lot of emphasis on his financial status, to the point of using it as a weapon in relationships, so that's really hitting him where it hurts). (And especially since, at least AFAIK, #notalawyer etc., community-property laws seem made of "the worm has turned and is now packing an Uzi" for this situation--- Mr. "I make 3x what you do so you are now my domestic servant" would very likely get ~*~*~served~*~*~ precisely because of their relative financial circumstances and I like that idea entirely too well.)
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[personal profile] vass 2015-08-07 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
*wordless bellow of feminist rage*