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magid ([personal profile] magid) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2025-06-19 07:18 am
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Social Q’s: No Need to Feel Flattened by a Fifth Wheel

Third question in this week’s NY Times’ Social Q’s, posted because I’m flabbergasted by the guests’ question.

Twice recently, my husband and I were invited to dinner at the homes of couples we know. We assumed they wanted to get to know us better. But both times, we were surprised to be joined by a visiting family member. At one, it was a cousin from down the street; at the other, it was a visiting niece. Their presence definitely changed the dynamic. Did these hosts behave politely, or are my husband and I correct that they were inconsiderate and rude to include others and take away from the intention of the evening?

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I think that you and your husband should reconsider your notion of hospitality. In both cases, your hosts shopped, cooked, tidied their homes and served you dinner. Yet you interpret all that generosity as rudeness because of an extra guest. That strikes me as rigid and ungrateful.
You don’t mention either couple specifying a dinner for four. Hosts aren’t obliged to share their guest lists in advance. And the idea that you couldn’t get to know one another better because an extra person was there seems silly. Feel free to arrange your dinner parties as you like. But don’t degrade the generosity of others: It’s unflattering.
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[personal profile] dissectionist 2025-06-19 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The difference is that while you find it disconcerting (and that’s valid), you’re not making it All About You by assuming that the hosts are being rude assholes by inviting another person. You’re keeping your feelings as the “me problem” they are, unlike the LW who is assuming it’s a “them problem” and the hosts at fault for not catering to LW’s unspoken expectation to be the center of attention.

I can get nervous about strangers too (it’s a social anxiety thing for me) but it would never occur to me to think that the guests suck at hosting for inviting someone else, or to automatically assume that they’re inviting me because they want to focus exclusively on me all night.