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minoanmiss ([personal profile] minoanmiss) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2024-11-01 10:45 am

Dear Prudence: My Son Recapitulates Malthus



Dear Prudence,

My grandmother “Rose” passed at the age of 97.
The funeral was yesterday. My son, “Xavier,” who’s almost 4, came with us to the service, and while it’s not exactly something I wanted to do, I spoke with him about death and how we wouldn’t see his great-grandmother anymore. He was sad, but also calm about it in a way that’s unusual for him. I wasn’t sure if he really understood what death was, so I probed about it a bit, and his answers troubled me.

He gave what is basically a Malthusian argument. After all, he said, people have babies all the time, and my wife is currently pregnant—he knows a baby’s coming to our house. But if people keep having babies and nobody “leaves,” then there won’t be enough food, housing, or clothes for everyone as more and more people live on Earth. So clearly some people have to die. He’s sad he won’t see Grammy anymore, but she was the oldest person he knew, so it makes sense it was her turn next.

None of that is wrong exactly, but it’s also kind of chilling, isn’t it? Or maybe it’s more normal than I think. Is this something I have to worry about?

—Mortal Peril


Dear Mortal,

I’m sorry for the loss of your grandmother, and I’m glad you got to have such a long time with her. You do not need to worry about Xavier. Kids respond to death in all kinds of different ways, and this “logical” processing of a funeral is totally fine. It’s a developmentally appropriate, superficial explanation of death that gets the most important facts right: that his great-grandmother is gone, and that it’s a normal part of life, even if it’s sad. He sounds like a child who likes to think through questions and find answers that make sense to him.

It’s up to you how deep you want to go into it. His understanding is going to remain surface-level for many years, and trying to explain to him why Rev. Malthus’ ideas remain hotly debated by philosophers, economists, and demographers to this day probably won’t get you very far. But let me assure you that your son is not secretly evil, like Damien from The Omen. He’s just a kid figuring out the world.

—Prudie, realistically
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[personal profile] melannen 2024-11-01 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
When I was that age and dealing with my first funeral I assumed that if a woman had gone to heaven that must mean she was going to be Mrs. God (just like the woman at the North Pole was Mrs. Santa.)

I think this kid is doing okay.
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[personal profile] ethelmay 2024-11-01 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
She did say "in a way that's unusual for him." So it might be a new development.
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[personal profile] movingfinger 2024-11-01 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
He's four! He's still figuring out how shirts work! He's not a sociopath, he's trying to make sense of an enormous, complex world.
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[personal profile] green_grrl 2024-11-01 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I am suddenly curious as to whether he has seen The Lion King yet, or whether he logicked out the circle of life on his own. Either way, impressive.
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[personal profile] sushiflop 2024-11-02 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Having taught little kids before, he's definitely at an age to interpret death and dying in ways that feel a bit hinky to some adult eyes. He's going to change so much so quickly. The adults in his life should just be there for him in this time.
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[personal profile] bookblather 2024-11-02 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
He's four. This is very logical and coherent for a four-year-old, but the content is so accurate. Plus, considering that he said "leave," I don't think he knows what death actually is?