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Dear Prudence: My Friends Are Abnormal
I can't make a single normal friend.
I can’t make a single normal friend. Not one. Not that not being the stereotype of “normal” is at all a bad thing, of course. All my friends are a little unusual: One goes into the woods to light candles and worship something I’ve never heard of; another is a gender I can’t pronounce; one dissociates and writes code at 2 a.m. while not blinking and singing Bad Omens; another is obsessed with serial killers. I support them all, but I can’t help but wonder, is there something about me that attracts unusual folks? I look around at other people and their friends laughing and talking about movies, and I wonder how my friend (lying on the floor talking about aliens) found me. Is there something about me that isn’t “normal,” or something that attracts them? Is there a way I can make more “normal” friends? My parents worry about me, they say I’ll be a loser in college if I can’t make “normal” friends. I don’t know what it is, and I don’t want to lose my friends, but how can I befriend more normals, to satisfy my family at least?
—I Swear I’m Normal
Dear I Swear,
Making a particular kind of friend to satisfy your family is a bad idea. I would go as far as to say that taking orders from your parents when it comes to who you socialize with, and putting a lot of stock in their views, makes you pretty “unusual” in your own way! I also think that you’ll soon realize that very few people are really normal—everyone has their quirks and strange ways and unique backstory.
Now, if what you want are cisgender, heterosexual, neurotypical friends with mainstream interests, those people do exist. Joining a fraternity or sorority when you get to college would probably up your odds of being connected with people who fit this profile. If there is something about you that is giving off “not normal,” and might turn them off, I suppose you could probably deemphasize it with enough effort. You wouldn’t be the first person to study a particular corner of social media and recreate the style, interests, and patterns of speech you see there, in an effort to tweak your presentation. But I can’t seriously endorse this plan. You’d be putting a lot of effort into how you look and your social circle looks, without any regard for how your life felt. That’s a recipe to feel like a fraud, and to experience the loneliness that comes with wondering whether people would still like you if you were authentic.
Instead, I suggest erasing the whole normal/not normal thing from your mind and taking a different approach entirely. Ask yourself “What do I want to feel when I’m around my friends, and am I currently feeling it?” and “What do I want my friendships to add to my life, and are they currently adding it?” For example, maybe right now you want to feel understood, and you don’t because your friends are too busy writing code. Or, maybe you want to go to movies and discuss shared interests, and that’s not happening because your friends only want to talk about extraterrestrial life. So the path forward would be to look for people who are good listeners and who are into the things you’re into, not to go on the hunt for “normal.”
And remember that whoever you’re trying to hang out with, it will be helpful to take a sincere interest in who they are and what they care about. You might feel more connected to your current friends if you, for example, asked for some details about whatever it is they’re worshiping in the woods (and why) instead of dismissing it as “something I’ve never heard of.” And whatever that allegedly unpronounceable gender identity is (I can’t imagine learning how to say it is actually out of reach for a person on their way to college!), I’m sure you could get your head around it with a bit of effort. This—paired with some real care about what that identity means of them—might really deepen your relationship. And as you meet your college classmates and get to know some better, make sure you’re putting as much thought into the kind of friend you are to them as much as you’re thinking about how weird or not weird they are.
I can’t make a single normal friend. Not one. Not that not being the stereotype of “normal” is at all a bad thing, of course. All my friends are a little unusual: One goes into the woods to light candles and worship something I’ve never heard of; another is a gender I can’t pronounce; one dissociates and writes code at 2 a.m. while not blinking and singing Bad Omens; another is obsessed with serial killers. I support them all, but I can’t help but wonder, is there something about me that attracts unusual folks? I look around at other people and their friends laughing and talking about movies, and I wonder how my friend (lying on the floor talking about aliens) found me. Is there something about me that isn’t “normal,” or something that attracts them? Is there a way I can make more “normal” friends? My parents worry about me, they say I’ll be a loser in college if I can’t make “normal” friends. I don’t know what it is, and I don’t want to lose my friends, but how can I befriend more normals, to satisfy my family at least?
—I Swear I’m Normal
Dear I Swear,
Making a particular kind of friend to satisfy your family is a bad idea. I would go as far as to say that taking orders from your parents when it comes to who you socialize with, and putting a lot of stock in their views, makes you pretty “unusual” in your own way! I also think that you’ll soon realize that very few people are really normal—everyone has their quirks and strange ways and unique backstory.
Now, if what you want are cisgender, heterosexual, neurotypical friends with mainstream interests, those people do exist. Joining a fraternity or sorority when you get to college would probably up your odds of being connected with people who fit this profile. If there is something about you that is giving off “not normal,” and might turn them off, I suppose you could probably deemphasize it with enough effort. You wouldn’t be the first person to study a particular corner of social media and recreate the style, interests, and patterns of speech you see there, in an effort to tweak your presentation. But I can’t seriously endorse this plan. You’d be putting a lot of effort into how you look and your social circle looks, without any regard for how your life felt. That’s a recipe to feel like a fraud, and to experience the loneliness that comes with wondering whether people would still like you if you were authentic.
Instead, I suggest erasing the whole normal/not normal thing from your mind and taking a different approach entirely. Ask yourself “What do I want to feel when I’m around my friends, and am I currently feeling it?” and “What do I want my friendships to add to my life, and are they currently adding it?” For example, maybe right now you want to feel understood, and you don’t because your friends are too busy writing code. Or, maybe you want to go to movies and discuss shared interests, and that’s not happening because your friends only want to talk about extraterrestrial life. So the path forward would be to look for people who are good listeners and who are into the things you’re into, not to go on the hunt for “normal.”
And remember that whoever you’re trying to hang out with, it will be helpful to take a sincere interest in who they are and what they care about. You might feel more connected to your current friends if you, for example, asked for some details about whatever it is they’re worshiping in the woods (and why) instead of dismissing it as “something I’ve never heard of.” And whatever that allegedly unpronounceable gender identity is (I can’t imagine learning how to say it is actually out of reach for a person on their way to college!), I’m sure you could get your head around it with a bit of effort. This—paired with some real care about what that identity means of them—might really deepen your relationship. And as you meet your college classmates and get to know some better, make sure you’re putting as much thought into the kind of friend you are to them as much as you’re thinking about how weird or not weird they are.
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My first reaction was that LW doesn't deserve the friends they disdain.
My second reaction was that LW sounds young.
My third reaction, on rereading, is that LW describes what their friends do, but not what they and their friends share, and what LW is characterizing as a lack of "normalcy" is actually a lack of connection.
I'm not yet sure what my fourth reaction will be.
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So the path forward would be to look for people who are good listeners and who are into the things you’re into, not to go on the hunt for “normal.”
[M]ake sure you’re putting as much thought into the kind of friend you are to them as much as you’re thinking about how weird or not weird they are.
The second line should be 'put more thought into what kind of friend you're behaving like, than judging people for being weird', but the thought is there.
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Consider learning about your friends' weirdnesses an honor, not a problem.
I notice you don't actually mention if you're "normal" or not, or if you enjoy hearing about aliens and serial killers and altars in the woods. If you don't share interests with your friends, then you can make an effort to join in to conversations about the things you are interested in, and see what happens. But your letter sounds to me like you enjoy having weird friends and this is about what your family likes, not you (and if you want to know what about you is attracting weird friends to you - it's that you like being friends with them, and they can tell.)
It also sounds like you might still be in high school. High school friend-making works very different from all other friendmaking. You'll have a full reset in college, and if you get to college and make an effort to reach out to the kind of people you want to be friends with in your first days there, you can. But also, there's a much richer and more beautiful tapestry of "weird" friends in college, and you'll be missing out if you avoid them. (Also, if you do make friends with the "normal" people, they can also tell if you actually enjoy spending time with them or if you're secretly jealous of the people lying on the floor talking about aliens!)
Also, your parents are completely wrong about what makes you a loser in college, fwiw, and even if you do have only weird friends in college, that's not a bad thing and I promise it won't cause you difficulties later in life or anything. (Unless you go into a career like finance or something where passing as normie is part of the job. But if that's the case all your classmates will be normies and you'll have plenty of opportunity to learn from and bond with them.)
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she just hadn't realized that weird people often grow up into interesting ones, because she only met those people in her own life AS ADULTS. she never got to see the larval weird part, because she met them in their 20s.
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Possibility 2. They would like to do some normal social activities but don't have anyone to do it with. That doesn't have to be "join a sorority/fraternity", it can be somewhere between. I'm not sure if they do want this but don't know how to say so, or if they don't care but worry how it looks.
Possibility 3. They're worried that they can't get on with average people, and that getting on with most people on their course would be useful. That's reasonable! But it will probably turn out ok. They don't need to hide weird, but you can learn to mix with typical people without leaning into "I could never do that".
Possibility 4. They're weird in a way they haven't realised yet. That seems really likely. And I agree that they should embrace who they are, not who society thinks they should be. All the other answers still apply
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I hope this kid is able to realize sooner rather than later that their parents don’t know everything, the parents are way off base on this one, and they’ll be much happier if they stop dividing people into normal/weird (where weird = loser) categories.
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My father, of blessed memory, reassured me that I would soon be able to look for friends in a larger group. I would eventually find the people I wanted to be friends with. A high school has more people than a middle school, and thus I'd be more likely to find kindred spirits. College has more people still. (Perhaps that's why I chose such a big university.) Sad that poor LW doesn't have someone like my dad to reassure them. It's sort of impressively self-aware that the kid is reaching out to somebody else for that reassurance.
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My own weirdness blossomed over time. So my having always preferred weird people as friends makes sense. Once in a while I’ve made a point of trying to make friends with someone less weird and it usually didn’t work over the long term.
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