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minoanmiss ([personal profile] minoanmiss) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2022-01-25 12:46 pm

Ask a Manager: Being an Environmentalist at a Fossil Fuel Company

[one of two from the same post]

I’m an environmentalist at a fossil fuel company:

I’ve been concerned about climate change and global warming for years now. This past summer really emphasized that climate change is here and is affecting my area of the world. The problem is, I work at a company that sells fossil fuels. It’s only one business line that we do, but it is the business line that makes the most profit. I wasn’t fully aware of the scope of this when I first accepted the job years ago, but as I learned more through my employment, I became aware that it is their biggest cornerstone.

I hoped that the recent developments in my country of carbon tax and the transition to electric vehicles that management would see the writing on the wall and start to wind down production and increase efforts into other business lines. However, they seem determined to squeeze as much profit out of oil and gas while they still can.

I work in marketing, so I help with the development of campaigns that promote consumers and businesses to buy fuel. More and more, I feel sickened by some of the work that being asked of me to do. How can we continue to sell fossil fuels and pretend like the world isn’t on fire?

The culture seems to be that climate change is taboo. I rarely hear anyone talk about it, except for polite conversation about how the weather is acting strange lately. I feel like my job could be on the line if I speak out against what upper management is planning, or if I start declining to do the work that I’m morally against.

I like my coworkers and I have a great boss. I enjoy the work that I do when it’s not related to fuel. The pay and benefits are great. After a history of low-paying jobs, I’m hesitant to give this one up. I rationalized this by thinking that someone has to fill my position, it might as well have someone who cares about the environment, right? But I am just a small cog in the machine, so my power to make change is limited. I have reached out to some coworkers individually who feel similarly, so I’m not the only one who feels this way at least. Is there anything I can do, or do I have to find a new job? Help!


If you’re asking if there’s any way to convince your company its work is morally wrong or otherwise get it to change course … probably not. If you were in a different type of role, there might be opportunities to engage in harm reduction efforts, but that’s not likely to happen in marketing. If you had uncovered information that allowed you to act as a whistleblower, that could be a way to effect change but it doesn’t sound like the situation you’re in.

The crux of it, unfortunately, is that you’re working for a company whose work conflicts with your values. You’re feeling the same way some people might feel working for big tobacco or the gun lobby, and you’ve got to decide if you’re willing to do it or not. Some people are able to make peace with working at jobs that don’t align with their values and some aren’t … but it sounds like you’re probably in the second group.
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[personal profile] heavenscalyx 2022-01-25 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, I work for a company that is a vendor for Big Pharma. Back in the days when I was primarily working on a large project for an erectile dysfunction drug, I felt really grimy. I have, over the years, managed to forge my way into working almost entirely on rare diseases that have no other treatments, and that helps me feel like I'm doing something good in the world. LW needs to figure out what parts make up for the parts that cause them pain. And that may be finding another job, or it may be asking to work on non-fuel-related projects.
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[personal profile] lemonsharks 2022-01-25 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)

Fuck yeah pharma adjacent career trajectory fistbump

I did similar headbutting my way into rare diseases and disease state awareness/education. (Whenever I interview I tell the people I strongly prefer working in unbranded consumer facing areas and branded HCP marketing, "because reasons unrelated to the ethics of the career path I accidentally stumbled into"

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[personal profile] melannen 2022-01-25 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I went to school for geology, and at least at the time, it was traditional for people to get their master's, swallow their ethics to work for an oil company until they'd paid off their student loans and had a down payment on a house, and then get a PhD and spend the rest of their career fighting climate change. This was how you funded your degree.

(I did not do this but I also didn't ever manage to work in the field at all, so...)

So if it really is that much better than any other job you can get: live frugally, pay off your debts, save up some fuck-you money, and think of it as you milking the oil company for the funding to go work at an environmental nonprofit as soon as you can afford it.

And then go work for an environmental nonprofit as soon as you can afford it.
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[personal profile] seascribble 2022-01-25 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I am in a similar, although less clear cut, dilemma to the letter writer in the field of allied health, and I needed this advice. I’m doing the only job I can do now, but I can keep an eye out for other things and save up my fuck you money and then write some killer political blogs when I’m out of the system.
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[personal profile] xenacryst 2022-01-26 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Geology major turned environmental studies master turned working somewhere else entirely fistbump!

I have several geo major friends who managed to stay in the field without totally selling their souls, but a few did anyway.
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[personal profile] cimorene 2022-01-25 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
😬 Oh boy. I mean, you have to sympathize with them hoping there's some magic words or secret solution to resolve this in a way that will make them happy, but... also... yeah, welcome to a pretty common dilemma.