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The terrible advice in this one made me MAD >:(
https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/01/should-i-get-vasectomy-care-and-feeding.html
"I’m Thinking About Getting a Vasectomy Against My Wife’s Wishes"
Dear Care and Feeding,
I am the proud father of two awesome kids and I’m married to a great woman who is a wonderful mother. I am a lucky man; I know it. We’re a happy family. My issue (and I’m thankful it’s not something too serious) is that, while I love my children, I know to my very core that I don’t want any more. My wife doesn’t have the same clarity. I’m not sure if she actually wants a third, but I’ve brought up scheduling a vasectomy multiple times, and she won’t let me do it! She says it’s too final, that she’s not ready to “close that door.” But I kind of feel like the fact that I am definitely ready to close that door means it just needs to be closed, regardless of whether she wants that or not. But I see as I type it that that seems awful. Is it?
—Fertile in Fort Collins
Dear Fertile,
It’s kind of awful, yeah.
I’m not suggesting that you should have more children if you definitely don’t want to. I’m saying that if you mean to stay married to this great woman and continue to be a part of this happy family of four, it’s not your place to make the unilateral decision to close that door forever, because that’s not the way a healthy partnership with another human being works. If you and your wife ever get to the point where she feels certain she does want another child and you continue to be certain you don’t, that’s a different kind of discussion—and yes, that might be a marriage-ending one (at which point you would be free to do whatever the hell you want with your reproductive capacity). But at this point, if your wife isn’t ready to totally commit to two-and-done, you don’t get to pull the plug if she has already asked you not to.
I’ll add that she may be unready for that for reasons having nothing much to do with thinking she might want a third child. (I can tell you that I knew for sure I didn’t want a second, but even so, when I reached menopause, I cried just because the possibility was gone forever. It was not a rational reaction. But not every human reaction is.) It’s possible, too, that she’s thinking about how if something happened to the children you have, she’d want to have options. (I know this sounds morbid—and it may be this is why she isn’t spelling that out for you. Another morbid thought: Maybe she’s thinking that if something happened to her, she’d want you to have options with someone else.) Whatever it is that’s keeping her from going along with your plan, trust it. Be patient. Be supportive. And double down on birth control.
"I’m Thinking About Getting a Vasectomy Against My Wife’s Wishes"
Dear Care and Feeding,
I am the proud father of two awesome kids and I’m married to a great woman who is a wonderful mother. I am a lucky man; I know it. We’re a happy family. My issue (and I’m thankful it’s not something too serious) is that, while I love my children, I know to my very core that I don’t want any more. My wife doesn’t have the same clarity. I’m not sure if she actually wants a third, but I’ve brought up scheduling a vasectomy multiple times, and she won’t let me do it! She says it’s too final, that she’s not ready to “close that door.” But I kind of feel like the fact that I am definitely ready to close that door means it just needs to be closed, regardless of whether she wants that or not. But I see as I type it that that seems awful. Is it?
—Fertile in Fort Collins
Dear Fertile,
It’s kind of awful, yeah.
I’m not suggesting that you should have more children if you definitely don’t want to. I’m saying that if you mean to stay married to this great woman and continue to be a part of this happy family of four, it’s not your place to make the unilateral decision to close that door forever, because that’s not the way a healthy partnership with another human being works. If you and your wife ever get to the point where she feels certain she does want another child and you continue to be certain you don’t, that’s a different kind of discussion—and yes, that might be a marriage-ending one (at which point you would be free to do whatever the hell you want with your reproductive capacity). But at this point, if your wife isn’t ready to totally commit to two-and-done, you don’t get to pull the plug if she has already asked you not to.
I’ll add that she may be unready for that for reasons having nothing much to do with thinking she might want a third child. (I can tell you that I knew for sure I didn’t want a second, but even so, when I reached menopause, I cried just because the possibility was gone forever. It was not a rational reaction. But not every human reaction is.) It’s possible, too, that she’s thinking about how if something happened to the children you have, she’d want to have options. (I know this sounds morbid—and it may be this is why she isn’t spelling that out for you. Another morbid thought: Maybe she’s thinking that if something happened to her, she’d want you to have options with someone else.) Whatever it is that’s keeping her from going along with your plan, trust it. Be patient. Be supportive. And double down on birth control.
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Not to mention that a vasectomy is a very effective fertility control method that allows the LW not to risk conceiving more children than he is prepared to raise (saying "double down on birth control" means that at least the advice-giver is vaguely aware that accidental pregnancies happen!)
This would be unacceptable advice for any gender, but it's interesting that a lot of the "you might change your mind" and "what if something happened to your existing children?" garbage is the stuff that routinely gets thrown at women who are requesting sterilization.
This is NOT the way to equalize access to reproductive healthcare, by making it worse for everyone.
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Also, Care and Feeding, you're out of your lane.
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Dear Care and Feeding. Imagine that the LW is female, and it's her husband who wants more kids while she wants a tubal. Now imagine telling her that it's awful to get a tubal because a man might want to impregnate her against her will. Now check all of your pamphlets that talk -- accurately -- about how getting kids out of people they don't want is an incredibly common form of domestic abuse. THEN SIT THE HELL DOWN AND SHUT THE HELL UP.
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MANY FLAME. VERY NO.
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NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE
YOUR BODY YOUR CHOICE
If your wife wants more kids, that's up to her, but she doesn't get non-consensual access to your sperm for them. Go get that snip.
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His body, his choice. Evey time.
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What gets me is that most advice columnists would be neutral to supportive of someone who wanted a tubal ligation. I can't understand why anyone would deny this LW the same level of support.
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The actual answer LW got is plain garbage.
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Something more like:
You get to take control over your fertility and decide you don't want to participate in creating another pregnancy, and take steps to make that happen, if you want.
But it sounds like you *want* your wife on board, or at least like you don't want the conflict that would come from going ahead without her on your side, and the only way to try to get her on board is to keep trying to get her on board. Talk to a family doctor or a local clinic that does vasectomies about resources, information (including reversal options and whether they require a partner's consent), and a referral. Bring the information to another conversation with your wife. Put aside time for the conversation, and let her know you want to have a serious talk about it. Tell her you love your family the way it is and you want a vasectomy, and ask her what she means when she says this feels like closing a door for your family. And listen to her answer. And then see where you're at.
And, think about what it would feel like to treat is as, you want a vasectomy, and you are going to get one, and you would like her support in that, and what would she need to be able to give you that support? Is there a point at which you would want to go ahead regardless of her support? What would feel like you had done your best to follow your values around this (which sound like they perhaps involve acknowledging your wife's feelings and communicating openly?) before going ahead, regardless of whether she agrees?
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Actual theory based on the text: the vasectomy makes being done with having kids or out of the family-building stage feel real in a way that brings up some feelings about life stages and ageing that she isn't prepared for. TL;DR: it makes her feel old.
Alternative theories: pregnancy risk kink; ideas about fertility tied up with ideas about sexual attractiveness in ways that hit insecurity buttons; founded or unfounded worries that removing the possibility of an accidental pregnancy would make LW more likely to cheat...
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(Affairs are certainly POSSIBLE, but the "closing the door" language makes me think it's a psychological barrier.)
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Vasect away, friend. This seems like one of the fertility-related medical procedures that is a one-party-consent situation.