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xenacryst ([personal profile] xenacryst) wrote in [community profile] agonyaunt2020-12-17 12:46 pm

Gentle Butch: Yep, you can be trans affirming even if it's awkward

https://gentlebutch.com/2020/12/17/should-i-buy-my-son-a-mail-order-penis/

Dear Gentle Butch,

My young adult trans son gave us his Christmas wish list today, and it includes a packer as one of his top three wants. He sent a link to one that is very realistic-looking. I want to affirm him, but I blush at the thought of buying him a mail-order penis. Should I just get over it?

— His Mom



Dear HM,

You wrote me instead of, say, “Miss Sexphobe,” so you know the short answer will be ‘yes.’

Get over it. Buy this affirming gift for your son as if it were a prosthetic hand or ear. It’s just a body part.

That said: I get why this is anxious-making for you. I do. So many cultures (I am perhaps erroneously presuming you’re an American, because I am an American, and we are so ridiculously presumptuous in this way), ours in particular, see genitalia as essentially sexual when in fact they are also waste disposal systems, baby birthing centers and sometimes gender markers (at least in your son’s case; many trans men need these in order to use the correct bathrooms but also in order to feel right.)

But we see them as just sex sex sex sex sex sex sex.

And sex, as we all know, is essentially shameful, and certainly a taboo subject for parents and children (even adult ones) to discuss in any detail. I mean, why not just get your kid a dildo, ya damn pervert?

I could go into all the reasons why this is ridiculous culturally-enforced bullshit, but you already know this. You know you need to get over it. But the thing is: traits, attitudes, and limitations that are a product of our society are not imaginary. They are real and they are powerful.

So let’s assume, for the purpose of argument, that buying your kid a very realistic prosthesis is embarrassing, feels sex-related, and makes you cringe — and this isn’t going to change any time soon.

Instead of telling you to easily shrug off centuries of repressive bullshit our culture has heaped upon you, I want you to consider that your son has the same damn baggage weighing him down.

Have you ever thought about your parents’ knowing anything about your sex life?

I KNOW I’M SORRY I’M SORRY

But if you have, you have probably been very squicked out and wanting to change the subject as quickly as possible.

Have you ever been caught masturbating or rolling around with someone by your parents? Have your parents ever found birth control that you were trying to hide from them? Have you ever watched a movie in which a sex scene suddenly hoists itself into view with your parents? Even if none of this has happened, does the thought of it make you want to crawl into a hole with a ladder to another hole with a passage into a secret room from which you will never have to emerge as long as they are still living?

It is EXCRUCIATING.

And your son faced that excruciating awkward embarrassment to add a packer to his wish list. He deliberately decided to deal with his parents thinking about his penis, and knowing exactly what it looks like.

He has already done a FAR more brave thing than he is asking you to do for him.

Packers, especially high-quality ones that may or may not be STP (stand to pee) prostheses, are expensive as hell.

It’s something that he needs for his quality of life that he might not be able to afford right now. That makes it the perfect gift from a parent.

So, yes. Get over it and buy him his damn penis.

And Merry Christmas.
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[personal profile] purlewe 2020-12-17 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
*standing and cheering from here at this advice*
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[personal profile] ashbet 2020-12-17 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
*wild applause*
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2020-12-17 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
*insert applause gif here*
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2020-12-17 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
You wrote me instead of, say, “Miss Sexphobe,” so you know the short answer will be ‘yes.’

Kudos to the columnist for recognizing that the parent was asking for -- and deserves -- gentle but firm cheerleading to get them over the squick factor, and also for pointint out the son's bravery.

Kudos to the LW for asking for gentle but firm cheerleading from a complete stranger and not making it his son's problem.
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[personal profile] melannen 2020-12-17 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
OH geez, this is a very good answer, but also, the whole idea of a parent knowing their kid's penis in that much detail does in fact give me the reaction described in the answer. Honestly, I would feel kinda weird about buying a hand or an ear for a Christmas gift for a family member too.

LW, I have two other options to offer you:

1. Send the kid a generous gift card to the website the packer was on, that will pay for what he requested, shipping, and a little extra. If you want to be explicitly gender-affirming, add a note that says something like "To buy yourself exactly the penis you want!" or something. That way, you can both pretend you don't know the details of what they got.

2. T--talk about it with him? Like, it's possible Gentle Butch is right and this was just as excruciating for him as for you, in which case, I still vote gift card + affirming note. It could also be that your son *wants* to be more open with you about this stuff - not everyone is cringingly horrified by the very idea of families being naked together, and he might be testing out whether he can share all the details of his gender stuff with you if he needs you. If that seems like him, call him and bring it up and see what happens. And if you can afford it, offer to buy it for him as not a Christmas gift, the same way (I hope) you would just help if he needed a new arm or foot.
Edited 2020-12-18 01:27 (UTC)
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[personal profile] kindkit 2020-12-18 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I wish the LW was clearer about what she means by "young adult." Is her son under legal age (in which case he probably can't order himself a packer) or is he a legal adult who is still young? If the former, I get it and I sympathize with the kid. If the latter, I think he should buy himself his own damn packer (and if he can't afford it, ask for money for a Christmas present--he can tell his mom that it's for something private but important to him).

I am, for the record, a trans man myself; the mom's reaction doesn't come across to me as discomfort with her son's transness, just as, well, boundaries. Not everyone has the same comfort level. I don't think her reluctance to talk prosthetic penises with her kid is necessarily weird or invalid. As someone who is pretty seriously uncomfortable with anatomical discussions, I do actually have sympathy for her as well.
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[personal profile] torachan 2020-12-18 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
Nope.
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[personal profile] lilysea 2020-12-18 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
If I were [son's parent] or [son]

my preference would be "Here is a prepaid credit card for $$$ amount to use for any gender affirming supplies that you would like" [you can buy prepaid credit cards with set amounts that cannot ever spend more than is loaded onto them]

and that way son can get what he needs with maximum privacy

and minimum possible discomfort for both parent and son
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[personal profile] laurajv 2020-12-19 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
as the parent of a transmasc kid....depending on the kid's age, I do think this is a fine request. if the child is in their 20s, just -- just ask for a gift Visa or something to buy gender-affirming stuff, but if the child is a teenager, I don't find it strange at all.

Teens in families that are not strange about sex ed are much more likely than other teens to do things like say "my penis hurts" "my vulva has a weird lump" etc. to their parents, because they are aware that sexual health is part of _health_ and that their parents can help them navigate embarrassing genital issues. For me this is in the same category, and suggests that the LW's son has had decent comprehensive sex ed and feels comfortable talking to his parents, AND that he is probably young enough that he doesn't have his own credit card/enough money for a quality packer.

In which case, well, if he'd been born with a penis, LW would've spent years being VERY familiar with it: changing his diaper, bathing him, getting an eyeful when he decided to prance around buck naked except for underwear on his head (my older child, a pre-teen, treated me to this one today....why. why.)